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imported>Wordman: /* Defenses */

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Defenses

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	* Unmoving Bear Defense (15xp, 12xp if using the Monsoon Needles, 48 hrs untrained, pg. 165). Dodge without moving, adding Essence dice. Can also provide a dodge of Essence dice if you don't have one reserved.		* Unmoving Bear Defense (15xp, 12xp if using the Monsoon Needles, 48 hrs untrained, pg. 165). Dodge without moving, adding Essence dice. Can also provide a dodge of Essence dice if you don't have one reserved.
	* Flowing Body Evasion (12xp 10xp if using the Monsoon Needles, 64 hrs untrained, requires Unmoving Bear Defense, pg. 165). ~~An almost~~ perfect dodge. It has a ~~flaws~~, though: you can't have acted yet in the round to use it. So, what this means is that you need to do a little strategizing against tough foes. Still, would allow you to stand toe to toe with a deathlord, briefly. Note that [[Forgotten Suns: House Rules\|our house rules]] make this charm Reflexive, not Simple, and one of the annoyances in the book has been removed.		* Flowing Body Evasion (12xp 10xp if using the Monsoon Needles, 64 hrs untrained, requires Unmoving Bear Defense, pg. 165). A perfect dodge. It has a flaw, though: you can't have acted yet in the round to use it. So, what this means is that you need to do a little strategizing against tough foes. Still, would allow you to stand toe to toe with a deathlord, briefly. Note that [[Forgotten Suns: House Rules\|our house rules]] make this charm Reflexive, not Simple, and one of the annoyances in the book has been removed.
	* Sinuous Striking Grace (15xp, 12xp if using the Monsoon Needles, 16 hrs untrained, pg. 136). Note that, thanks to the Monsoon Needles, this charm has no prerequisite. It lets you increase your initiative. Nothing to write home about, but...		* Sinuous Striking Grace (15xp, 12xp if using the Monsoon Needles, 16 hrs untrained, pg. 136). Note that, thanks to the Monsoon Needles, this charm has no prerequisite. It lets you increase your initiative. Nothing to write home about, but...
	* Snake Body Technique (15xp, 12xp if using the Monsoon Needles, 64 hrs untrained, requires Sinuous Striking Grace, pg. 165). Probably one of the best charms in the lunar book, providing you a full Dex + Dodge pool to dodge a hand-to-hand attack in such a way that if you avoid it, the attack is reflected back onto the attacker.		* Snake Body Technique (15xp, 12xp if using the Monsoon Needles, 64 hrs untrained, requires Sinuous Striking Grace, pg. 165). Probably one of the best charms in the lunar book, providing you a full Dex + Dodge pool to dodge a hand-to-hand attack in such a way that if you avoid it, the attack is reflected back onto the attacker.

imported>Wordman: /* Strong Attack Combo */

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Strong Attack Combo

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	** Pay 6m, 1wp to perfectly dodge if you haven't yet acted in the turn (+4xp, Flowing Body Evasion)		** Pay 6m, 1wp to perfectly dodge if you haven't yet acted in the turn (+4xp, Flowing Body Evasion)
	** Pay 1m/-2L to reduce the soak of a target for an attack (+5xp, Consuming Entropy Strike)		** Pay 1m/-2L to reduce the soak of a target for an attack (+5xp, Consuming Entropy Strike)

			This combo might work best with Hungry Ghost form, as you would probably regain most of the motes spent to power it.

imported>Wordman: /* Hungry Ghost Style */

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Hungry Ghost Style

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	Other charms can be learned, but don't suit Guen's current abilities very well:		Other charms can be learned, but don't suit Guen's current abilities very well:

	* Unnatural Shambling Deftness (12xp, req. Hungry Ghost Form). Take Essence extra actions this round. Can't be used with armor. Given Guen's abilities at multiple actions, this charm isn't ~~with~~ the activation cost.		* Unnatural Shambling Deftness (12xp, req. Hungry Ghost Form). Take Essence extra actions this round. Can't be used with armor. Given Guen's abilities at multiple actions, this charm isn't worth the activation cost.
	* Lunging Phantom Method (12xp, req. Unnatural Shambling Deftness). Cool looking, but sort of pricey for the effect it gives, which is to allow you to "attack from behind". You also would need to learn the previous one, making it even less cool.		* Lunging Phantom Method (12xp, req. Unnatural Shambling Deftness). Cool looking, but sort of pricey for the effect it gives, which is to allow you to "attack from behind". You also would need to learn the previous one, making it even less cool.
	* Blood Freezing Technique (12xp, req. Consuming Entropy Strike). If an attack deals damage, it also reduces your target's Dex by a dot. This is a neat effect, but is way too expensive to see real use.		* Blood Freezing Technique (12xp, req. Consuming Entropy Strike). If an attack deals damage, it also reduces your target's Dex by a dot. This is a neat effect, but is way too expensive to see real use.

imported>Wordman: /* A Reflexive Combo */

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A Reflexive Combo

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	It's tempting to build a combo with every reflexive you know in it. With the Mark, that's almost viable. Still might be overkill. Presumably, if Guen learns this, he'll use the Mark to do so, so the following ignores training time (it would be a lot, probably). Every charm you add to a combo adds its minimum attribute or ability value in xp to the cost of the combo. This one includes all of your reflexives, assuming you learn the charms mentioned above. To activate it, you pay 1 Willpower the first time you activate a charm in the round, then for the whole turn you can:		It's tempting to build a combo with every reflexive you know in it. With the Mark, that's almost viable. Still might be overkill. Presumably, if Guen learns this, he'll use the Mark to do so, so the following ignores training time (it would be a lot, probably). Every charm you add to a combo adds its minimum attribute or ability value in xp to the cost of the combo. This one includes all of your reflexives, assuming you learn the charms mentioned above. To activate it, you pay 1 Willpower the first time you activate a charm in the round, then for the whole turn you can:

	* Pay 5m to dodge with full Dex + Dodge pool. If you succeed, reflect attack back on the attacker (+3xp,		* Pay 5m to dodge with full Dex + Dodge pool. If you succeed, reflect attack back on the attacker (+3xp, Snake Body Technique)
	Snake Body Technique)
	* Pay 6m, 1wp to perfectly dodge if you haven't yet acted in the turn (+4xp, Flowing Body Evasion)		* Pay 6m, 1wp to perfectly dodge if you haven't yet acted in the turn (+4xp, Flowing Body Evasion)
	* Pay 1m/die to convert Dexterity dice to successes before a roll (+1xp, Attribute Affirmed)		* Pay 1m/die to convert Dexterity dice to successes before a roll (+1xp, Attribute Affirmed)

imported>Wordman: /* Strong Attack Combo */

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Strong Attack Combo

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	* Adding in some reflexives to the combo would allow you to (optionally)		* Adding in some reflexives to the combo would allow you to (optionally)
	** Pay 1m/die to convert Dexterity dice to successes before a roll (+1xp, Attribute Affirmed)		** Pay 1m/die to convert Dexterity dice to successes before a roll (+1xp, Attribute Affirmed)
	** Pay 5m to dodge with full Dex + Dodge pool. If you succeed, reflect attack back on the attacker (+3xp,		** Pay 5m to dodge with full Dex + Dodge pool. If you succeed, reflect attack back on the attacker (+3xp, Snake Body Technique)
	Snake Body Technique)
	** Pay 6m, 1wp to perfectly dodge if you haven't yet acted in the turn (+4xp, Flowing Body Evasion)		** Pay 6m, 1wp to perfectly dodge if you haven't yet acted in the turn (+4xp, Flowing Body Evasion)
	** Pay 1m/-2L to reduce the soak of a target for an attack (+5xp, Consuming Entropy Strike)		** Pay 1m/-2L to reduce the soak of a target for an attack (+5xp, Consuming Entropy Strike)

imported>Wordman: /* Combos */

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Combos

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 # Combos that use a few compatible Supplementals and some Reflexives. This is more of a hybrid approach, the main benefit being that the supplementals usually provide some attacking ability, but still allow you to split your pools. The drawback is that you still ''must'' use the supplementals on any action where they could be used during the turn the combo is up.
-Snake Body Technique
+=== A Reflexive Combo ===
 Flowing Body Evasion
-Dexterity Affirmed
+It's tempting to build a combo with every reflexive you know in it. With the Mark, that's almost viable. Still might be overkill. Presumably, if Guen learns this, he'll use the Mark to do so, so the following ignores training time (it would be a lot, probably). Every charm you add to a combo adds its minimum attribute or ability value in xp to the cost of the combo. This one includes all of your reflexives, assuming you learn the charms mentioned above. To activate it, you pay 1 Willpower the first time you activate a charm in the round, then for the whole turn you can:
 Cat-in-a-Box Kata
-High Stance Counterattack
+* Pay 5m to dodge with full Dex + Dodge pool. If you succeed, reflect attack back on the attacker (+3xp,
-Deadly Beastman Transformation
+Snake Body Technique)

imported>Wordman: /* Combos */

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Combos

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	== Combos ==		== Combos ==

	Combos allow you to activate more than one charm a turn. They are powerful, but they have four basic drawbacks. The first is that they take a while to learn. Fortunately, the Mark of Autochthon lets you learn them instantly. The second issue is that they are expensive to activate, especially in terms of Willpower. ~~the~~ third is that they are expensive to learn in terms of xp (though the Mark helps out here as well). Lastly, there are many restrictions about which charms can be comboed together. As a lunar, you can ignore a number of these restrictions, but not others.		Combos allow you to activate more than one charm a turn. They are powerful, but they have four basic drawbacks. The first is that they take a while to learn. Fortunately, the Mark of Autochthon lets you learn them instantly. The second issue is that they are expensive to activate, especially in terms of Willpower. The third is that they are expensive to learn in terms of xp (though the Mark helps out here as well). Lastly, there are many restrictions about which charms can be comboed together. As a lunar, you can ignore a number of these restrictions, but not others.

	The main restriction is that all charms in a combo must be Instants. Another restriction is that more or less all of the charms in a combo have to be activated, so they are "all or nothing". The huge exception to this are Reflexive charms, which you can choose not to activate. Consequently, there are usually three types of combos:		The main restriction is that all charms in a combo must be Instants. Another restriction is that more or less all of the charms in a combo have to be activated, so they are "all or nothing". The huge exception to this are Reflexive charms, which you can choose not to activate. Consequently, there are usually three types of combos:

imported>Wordman: /* Increase Something */

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Increase Something

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	*[[Rushing River of Return]]		*[[Rushing River of Return]]
	*[[Sympathetic Companion Transformation]]		*[[Sympathetic Companion Transformation]]

	~~== Increase Something ==~~

	If you want to use the mark's Deep Resonance, you could spend four Willpower and gain a dot of Precision to go into a training trance the compresses the 384 hours of untrained learning into an eight-hour vision quest. If you want to describe this vision quest to the rest of the ''players'' (not necessarily the ''characters''), you gain an immediate test to regain Willpower at the end of it (i.e. roll Conviction, gain willpower for each success).

	Alternatively, you could burn a point of Source to provide training. If you do this ''and'' use Deep Resonance to compress the time, trance only needs to compress 192 hours, so only costs two Willpower instead of four.

	== Combos ==		== Combos ==

imported>Wordman: /* Defenses */

2009-10-04T04:27:56Z

Defenses

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	Guen is pretty tough, but something like a 60L attack would probably kill him if it hit. Lunars, unfortunately, don't have completely perfect defenses, but they have some that come close. This would take you down the path to get them.		Guen is pretty tough, but something like a 60L attack would probably kill him if it hit. Lunars, unfortunately, don't have completely perfect defenses, but they have some that come close. This would take you down the path to get them.

	* Unmoving Bear Defense (12xp ~~-2xp~~ if using the Monsoon Needles, 48 hrs untrained, pg. 165). Dodge without moving, adding Essence dice. Can also provide a dodge of Essence dice if you don't have one reserved.		* Unmoving Bear Defense (15xp, 12xp if using the Monsoon Needles, 48 hrs untrained, pg. 165). Dodge without moving, adding Essence dice. Can also provide a dodge of Essence dice if you don't have one reserved.
	* Flowing Body Evasion (12xp ~~-2xp~~ if using the Monsoon Needles, 64 hrs untrained, requires Unmoving Bear Defense, pg. 165). An almost perfect dodge. It has a flaws, though: you can't have acted yet in the round to use it. So, what this means is that you need to do a little strategizing against tough foes. Still, would allow you to stand toe to toe with a deathlord, briefly. Note that [[Forgotten Suns: House Rules\|our house rules]] make this charm Reflexive, not Simple, and one of the annoyances in the book has been removed.		* Flowing Body Evasion (12xp 10xp if using the Monsoon Needles, 64 hrs untrained, requires Unmoving Bear Defense, pg. 165). An almost perfect dodge. It has a flaws, though: you can't have acted yet in the round to use it. So, what this means is that you need to do a little strategizing against tough foes. Still, would allow you to stand toe to toe with a deathlord, briefly. Note that [[Forgotten Suns: House Rules\|our house rules]] make this charm Reflexive, not Simple, and one of the annoyances in the book has been removed.
	* Sinuous Striking Grace (12xp ~~-2xp~~ if using the Monsoon Needles, 16 hrs untrained, pg. 136). Note that, thanks to the Monsoon Needles, this charm has no prerequisite. It lets you increase your initiative. Nothing to write home about, but...		* Sinuous Striking Grace (15xp, 12xp if using the Monsoon Needles, 16 hrs untrained, pg. 136). Note that, thanks to the Monsoon Needles, this charm has no prerequisite. It lets you increase your initiative. Nothing to write home about, but...
	* Snake Body Technique (12xp ~~-2xp~~ if using the Monsoon Needles, 64 hrs untrained, requires Sinuous Striking Grace, pg. 165). Probably one of the best charms in the lunar book, providing you a full Dex + Dodge pool to dodge a hand-to-hand attack in such a way that if you avoid it, the attack is reflected back onto the attacker.		* Snake Body Technique (15xp, 12xp if using the Monsoon Needles, 64 hrs untrained, requires Sinuous Striking Grace, pg. 165). Probably one of the best charms in the lunar book, providing you a full Dex + Dodge pool to dodge a hand-to-hand attack in such a way that if you avoid it, the attack is reflected back onto the attacker.

	== Shapeshifting ==		== Shapeshifting ==

imported>Wordman: /* The Supremacy of Dexterity */

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The Supremacy of Dexterity

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	The second method that Guen has access to (that most lunars don't) are the [[Embodiment of Luna]] charms revealed by the [[Monsoon Needles]]. These are nine charms that permanently increase what the maximum rating of your Attributes can be. Normally, your attributes can only be as high as either five or your Essence rating, whichever is larger. So, to raise your Dex to, say, seven, you'd need to have Essence 7. With these charms, you can raise Dex that high without raising Essence first. Learning the Dexterity version of this charm, then raising Dex to the new max, would not only give you more dice, it would also raise the limit on how many dice you can add from charms. The whole thing would look like this:		The second method that Guen has access to (that most lunars don't) are the [[Embodiment of Luna]] charms revealed by the [[Monsoon Needles]]. These are nine charms that permanently increase what the maximum rating of your Attributes can be. Normally, your attributes can only be as high as either five or your Essence rating, whichever is larger. So, to raise your Dex to, say, seven, you'd need to have Essence 7. With these charms, you can raise Dex that high without raising Essence first. Learning the Dexterity version of this charm, then raising Dex to the new max, would not only give you more dice, it would also raise the limit on how many dice you can add from charms. The whole thing would look like this:

	* ''Dexterity Affirmed'' (12xp~~, -2xp~~ if using the Monsoon Needles, 16 hrs untrained): Before roll, convert up to Dexterity dice to successes for 1m/die.		* ''Dexterity Affirmed'' (15xp, 12xp if using the Monsoon Needles, 16 hrs untrained): Before roll, convert up to Dexterity dice to successes for 1m/die.
	* ''Embodiment of Full Moon's Dexterity'' (12xp~~, -2xp~~ if using the Monsoon Needles, 24 hrs training using Needles as tutor): The maximum that you can raise Dexterity becomes seven.		* ''Embodiment of Full Moon's Dexterity'' (15xp, 12xp if using the Monsoon Needles, 24 hrs training using Needles as tutor): The maximum that you can raise Dexterity becomes seven.
	* ''Dexterity to 6'' (19xp, -1xp if using the Monsoon Needles, would take 480 hours without training, but with the needles both acting as a trainer and accelerating the process, only takes 120 hours). Note that if this is still not fast enough, the Mark could be used to compress it into eight hours for two Willpower a point of Precision.		* ''Dexterity to 6'' (19xp, -1xp if using the Monsoon Needles, would take 480 hours without training, but with the needles both acting as a trainer and accelerating the process, only takes 120 hours). Note that if this is still not fast enough, the Mark could be used to compress it into eight hours for two Willpower a point of Precision.
	* ''Dexterity to 7'' (23xp, -1xp if using the Monsoon Needles, 144 hours with needles). Note that if this is still not fast enough, the Mark could be used to compress it into eight hours for two Willpower a point of Precision.		* ''Dexterity to 7'' (23xp, -1xp if using the Monsoon Needles, 144 hours with needles). Note that if this is still not fast enough, the Mark could be used to compress it into eight hours for two Willpower a point of Precision.